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Jeff Moehlis: Make Your Dreams Come True by Seeing Hall & Oates

The duo will perform at the Santa Barbara Bowl on Sunday night

Hall & Oates have been described as the most successful musical duo of the rock era, and if you think for a minute about who that puts them ahead of, that's quite an impressive accomplishment.

Daryl Hall and John Oates first started making music together in the early 1970s, and that decade saw hits for them including "Sara Smile" and "Rich Girl." But things really took off for the duo in the 1980s, with songs like "Kiss on My List," "You Make My Dreams," "Private Eyes," "I Can't Go for That (No Can Do)," "Maneater," "One on One" and "Out of Touch" tearing up the charts. In recognition of their artistic and commercial success, Hall & Oates were inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame earlier this year.

In advance of the upcoming Hall & Oates concert at the Santa Barbara Bowl on Sunday night, guitarist Oates, who co-wrote many of the duo's songs and even sang lead vocals on a few, talked to Noozhawk about some highlights from Hall & Oates' career.

More information and a link to purchase tickets to the show can be found by clicking here. The full interview is available by clicking here.

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Jeff Moehlis: Congratulations on being inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. How does that feel to you, to be part of that?

John Oates: Well, in a way it kind of feels like a lifetime achievement award. You know, we were eligible for that from 1997, and we were overlooked every year. So I never really lost much sleep over it. It was not really something I was that concerned with, although I was very happy when it happened. So, now that it happened, it's very cool and we're all good.

JM: Going way back, when you and Daryl first started writing and performing music together, was there an instant spark or did that take awhile to develop?

JO: It actually took awhile to develop. We actually hung out as friends and roommates. We were playing in different bands, doing different studio work. Eventually it evolved into us ... really it evolved out of frustration with other situations. He wasn't happy with what he was doing, I wasn't happy with what I was doing. We just kind of said, "You know what, let's just play our songs together. We'll just play our songs together and see where it takes us." And that's really how it started.

JM: On to the '80s — to you, what was the good, the bad and the ugly about that era?

JO: To be honest, the '80s were not my favorite time. I liked the '70s much more. I was more free, I was more inconspicuous. We weren't as popular, so we could really have a lot more fun. We were so popular in the '80s that it was really just a blur. We just worked, worked, worked. We had a lot of fun, don't get me wrong, but it was really so intense that there was no time to step back and enjoy the experience.

The thing that people don't understand about success is that the biggest enemy when you're successful is time. Time just disappears, because there's so much demand on what you do and for you to do things, and there's so much pressure by the outside world whether it's the press, the public, record companies, management, agents, whatever.

So all those things add up to making it really much more of an intense experience, and not really as enjoyable as one might think.

When we were driving around in a 1968 Pontiac GTO in 1974, and going into a town and staying for a couple of days and playing our show in a small club and hanging out with local people, that was to me way cooler than the '80s.

JM: You were involved with at least two of the big cultural events of the '80s — Live Aid and the "We Are the World" recording. What are your reflections on those experiences?

JO: I think they were the culmination of our '80s experience. Within a very short period of time we did the first Live Aid, "We Are the World," and we did Live at the Apollo with Eddie Kendricks and David Ruffin — you know, the music of The Temptations was one of the touchstones that brought Daryl and I together, it was like a common musical place for us. To have accomplished all that, and to have this incredible string of No. 1 records, one after the other, it was almost at the point where we had to step back.

We said to ourselves, "This would really be a good time for us to re-evaluate how we're going to move forward." Because we didn't want to be just relics of the '80s, relegating ourselves to be a nostalgia band who could only do that. I think that was probably very wise on our part. It probably wasn't the smartest thing commercially at the time we did it, but we did step back. The net result is that in 2014 we're still out there, and we're not a nostalgia band, and people don't look at us like we're relics of the '80s, and they appreciate our 40-year career for what it is. So that's how we look at things.

So here again, making decisions based on creativity and art as opposed to commerce and commerciality, I think, was a very smart thing for us to do.

JM: That leads into my next question. It's amazing that you guys have stayed together, and seemingly get along with each other, for so long. I don't think that a lot of music duos have had that longevity. Do you have a secret for how you guys have made it work for so long?

JO: Well, we do a number of things. It's a very complicated answer to that question, though. We're very different as people in a lot of ways, yet we have a lot of similarities when it comes to musical sensibility, and that's what keeps us together. We have this common musical vocabulary, that comes from our youth, from growing up in the same area, listening to the same kind of music, being musical people who express themselves musically.

We had this very solid foundation, but then at the same time we have very different ways of dealing with our personal lives, our families are different, we live in different parts of the country. So we kind of don't get in each other's way that much, but at the same time we both have the same desires, meaning we both enjoy playing together as Hall & Oates, and we have an amazing band. We get out there and we do it, and people love the show. But we also like to stop, go away, do our own thing, and get the personal satisfaction of doing individual things. We both feel the exact same way about that, so that's probably why we're able to do it.

JM: My last question goes back to the '80s. For the song "I Can't Go for That (No Can Do)", what can't Daryl go for?

JO: That song's kind of about the music business. It's about not being pushed around and forced to do things that you don't believe in, just because it might be successful. It's a mantra for kind of how we look at the world. It's not about making money, it's not about having a No. 1 record, it's not about being on the cover of a magazine or whatever. It's about being true to what you believe in. That's what that song's about.

— Jeff Moehlis is a Noozhawk contributing writer and a professor of mechanical engineering at UC Santa Barbara. Upcoming show recommendations, advice from musicians, interviews and more are available on his web site, The opinions expressed are his own.

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